Episode 138: The Gospel of Disenchantment with Corinna and Nina

Cori and Nina visit Saint Mary-of-the-Woods and witness several miracles, including light tailwinds both directions of Nina’s 168-mile bike trip, not having to play Spirit Island, and an epiphany or two while praying the rosary. Will Cori minister to the trannies? Is Nina distinguishable from a Sister of Providence? Have you heard the Good News about Reality? An impromptu recording we just made while catching up this afternoon.


Death Before Detransition: https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/death-before-detransition-yes

Episode 137: Man of Steele with Eli Steele

Eli Steele’s documentaries challenge narratives favored by guilty white liberals such as Nina before she got canceled by her own tribe. His latest, Killing America, connects the demise of honors classes and other merit incentives in US schools, with the rise of “liberation ideologies,” antisemitism, and the erasure of history. We discuss The Age of White Guilt by Eli’s father, Shelby Steele; feminism; indulgences; fraudulent copyright claims; Hamas; Israel; sandworms; alternative film distribution; and Jews on Pluto. Born profoundly deaf, Steele has a “deaf accent” that may require extra attention to understand, but his ideas are unusually clear.


What killed Michael Brown: https://whatkilledmichaelbrown.com/

Killing America: https://x.com/Hebro_Steele/status/1776396571699294718?lang=en

The Age of White Guilt: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/08/18/the-age-of-white-guilt-and-the-disappearance-of-the-black-individual-by-shelby-steele/

Sita Sings the Blues: https://www.sitasingstheblues.com/watch.html

Man of Steele Productions: https://www.manofsteeleproductions.com/

The Internet Archive: https://archive.org/

Episode 136: Palestinian Heterodoxy with John Aziz

British-Palestinian writer and analyst John Aziz joins the Dorx to repeat his wacky, out-there thesis: Israelis are not going anywhere, Palestinians are not going anywhere, both groups have legitimate claims to the land, and both must forge a realistic future of peace. This is unfortunately controversial. Aziz emphasizes Israel is not Vietnam or Afghanistan; offers a definition of Zionism; critiques Israel’s military actions; asserts violent video games can reduce street violence; and is gratifyingly impressed to learn Nina made the animated musical short This Land Is Mine. Plus tunnels, elevated highways, October 7th, Hamas, social contagion, identical tents, antisemitism, two goats on a land bridge, and more!


John Aziz on Twitter: https://x.com/aziz0nomics

Andy the Antizionist Heterodorx episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-115-ask-an-anti-zionist-with-andy-the-anti-zionist/

Episodes 134 & 135: Is Brianna Wu Based?

Is the video game developer, computer programmer, GamerGate veteran, and aspiring politician “based” for recent statements against antisemitism? To find out, the Dorx invited Wu for an interview that lasted 2-and-a-half hours and is therefore broken into two parts (if you listen to only one, make it Part Two):


A friendly conversation about eyebrows, makeup, Zionism, antisemitism, GamerGate, WPATH standards, trans civil rights, binary vs. nonbinary, philosophical questions, the TERF-Tranny Alliance, JK Rowling, holocaust denial, India Willoughby, illiberalism, Media Matters, and the Harry S Benjamin Standards of Care.


An increasingly contentious discussion of Jesse Singal, journalistic standards, changing sex, allies, public policies that are cruel to trans people, identity, dehumanization, tolerance, prejudice, the N-word, swastika flags, fringe opinions, cognitive dissonance, cancellation, and the value of trans experience. It’s a long listen, but we think this episode gives a definitive answer to the title question.

Episode 133: Butching It Up with Nina and Corinna

It would take a butcher to butch up Corinna enough to satisfy those clamoring for his detransition. Fresh from the UnSpeakeasy retreat in Louisville, the Dorx also discuss the Kohein priestly caste, street work, rimshots, shock collars, and Pronoun Ripple ice cream. Is Cori a homunculus dressed in a woman suit? How many cavities does he have? Does wearing lumberjack clothes make you a lumberjack? Can we achieve peace in the Middle East by blocking traffic in the US? Listen to this exceptionally casual episode to find out the answers, most of which are “no”.


The Lumberjack Song: https://youtu.be/FshU58nI0Ts?si=vVwQniymDpk_udP4

The UnSpeakeasy: https://www.theunspeakeasy.com/retreats

Belissa Cohen on Corinna Cohn: https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Corinna%22%20(from%3ABelissaCohen)&src=typed_query&f=live

Camp Trans: https://afterellen.com/setting-the-record-straight-about-michfest/

Urbana IL citizens push for city resolution for ceasefire in Palestine: https://www.news-gazette.com/news/after-70-speakers-are-heard-from-urbana-aldermen-pass-revised-gaza-resolution-receive-standing-ovation/article_ad04334c-f8fe-567f-a038-04aa53cdfbc7.html

This Land Is Mine: https://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIY?si=SgipauO73mibAzKZ

Seder-Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/

Gender and Nina’s local bike club: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2022/03/21/cycling-and-gender-intersect-in-meaningful-ways/

The Milgram Experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Aaaron Kimberly, Alice Dreger, Alex Byrne, Holly Lawford-Smith debate: Is Sex Binary? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoT_ayxjXpg&ab_channel=MITFreeSpeechAlliance

Episode 132: A Light Unto the School Districts with Dr. Tabia Lee

What happens when an inquisitive, naturally hopeful, critical-thinking civics-oriented teacher educator gets a position in an Office of Equity, Social Justice, and Multicultural Education? She gets fired for not being “the right kind of Black person”, and then speaks out about it while developing better alternatives for schools. Dr. tabia lee joins the Dorx to discuss travel, authenticity, finding pride in America, critical Social Justice, racial affinity groups, “white oppressors,” DEI gangsters, infighting, bad journalism, calling in vs. calling out, emotional reasoning, pronouns, sparklefun, purple hair, and living in a dystopian science-fiction timeline. Listeners will also be treated to optimism, good humor, and multiple Hollywood-style false endings!


Tabia Lee on Twitter: https://twitter.com/11Drtlee11

DEI College Director Fired for Not Being ‘Right Kind of Black Person’: https://www.newsweek.com/dei-college-director-fired-not-being-right-kind-black-person-1813481

Free Black Thought: https://freeblackthought.com/voices/dr-tabia-lee

Do No Harm: https://donoharmmedicine.org/

Dr. t lee Educational Consultancy: http://www.drtlee.solutions/services.html

Coalition for Empowered Education: https://empowered-ed.org/about-us/

Paolo Freire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Freire

ELIZA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

For more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com

Episode 131: California Nightmares with Beth Bourne

Beth Bourne is a lifelong Democrat, mother of an estranged trans-identified daughter, and model of courage in the belly of the beast that is the Golden State. After years of receiving slow and inattentive medical service, she told Kaiser Permanente she identified as non-binary and suddenly had speedy access to attention, validation, and any “gender-affirming care” their zealous trans-identified doctors could dream up: cross-sex hormones, double mastectomy, nipple grafts, body contouring, total hysterectomy, phalloplasty, and more! All at rock-bottom co-pays and fast-tracked by cooperative “therapists.” It’s the stuff of nightmares, and that’s before getting into her loss of friends, demonization by the local press, and a restraining order from her kid’s school. From Davis to Redwood City to trans/human-trafficker “sanctuary city” Sacramento, Beth’s story is as inspiring as it is harrowing.



“I Pretended to be ‘Nonbinary’ To Expose A Medical Scandal at Kaiser Permanente”: https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/i-pretended-to-be-nonbinary-to-expose

Beth Bourne on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bourne_beth2345

DIAG: Democrats for an Informed Approach to Gender: https://www.di-ag.org/

Moms for Liberty: https://www.momsforliberty.org/


For more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com

Episode 130: Structure and Coherence with J.D. Haltigan

Independent Scientist and emerging public intellectual J.D. Haltigan left academia for a life of forced leisure and blue-collar employment, but he’d rather pursue his passion for psychological research at an institution. He joins the Dorx to discuss Covid masking, psychopathology, bike helmets, denial of death, the neurotic anxious failure to develop identity, attachment theory, gender and co-morbid mental illness, the perversion of the caregiving instinct, limit-setting, ideological capture, Social-Emotional Learning as a proxy for parenting, mama bears, religion, pseudoreligion, the narcissism of “rescuers”, and the upcoming detransition contagion. Did we miss anything? Hopefully this episode will provide listeners with enough structure to construct a coherent narrative of life; if not, well, go outside and touch grass.


J.D. on twitter: https://twitter.com/JDHaltigan

J.D.’s substack: https://www.jdhaltigan.com/

J.D. Haltigan on The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker: https://www.jdhaltigan.com/p/reflections-on-beckers-the-denial?utm_source=twitter&sd=pf

Lionel Shriver writes about Corrie Cohn: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/children-need-protection-from-adult-madness/

Abigail Shrier’s Bad Therapy: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/716567/bad-therapy-by-abigail-shrier/

For more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com

Episode 129: “A Path to Inclusion” with Cyd Zeigler

Cyd Zeigler started OutSports in 1999, gradually shifting focus from “pro sports from a gay men’s fandom angle” to all things LGBTQ++, including trans athletes. He joins the Dorx to argue for inclusion of male trans athletes in female categories. From chess to football, Zeigler believes every sport can and should be treated differently; that sex categories open up opportunities; and that both sides point to Title IX as the reason they’re right. Nina pushes back on safety; Corinna introduces the idea of locus of control; and everyone agrees more data is needed. Despite an unfortunate technical error that ends the game early (that’s what happens when your tech support is an alpaca), Zeigler remains sportsmanlike throughout.


Outsports: https://www.outsports.com/

Renee Richards: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards

Nancy Hogshead-Makar: https://championwomen.org/meet-nancy-hogshead-makar/

Colin Wright explains sex categories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4WV9xv62f4&ab_channel=Genspect

rainbow hockey tape ban: https://www.outsports.com/2023/10/24/23930391/nhl-reverses-pride-tape-ban-players-gay-lgbtq/

Colin Kaepernick kneeling: https://apnews.com/article/f9bbe38b748072531b07713736409181

Megan Rapinoe kneeling: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2663982-megan-rapinoe-kneels-during-national-anthem-before-usa-vs-thailand

ICONS Women In Sports conference 2023: https://www.iconswomen.com/2023-international-womens-sports-summit/

Episode 128: Autoandrophilia with Aaron Terrell

After Nina welcomes self-described autoandrophile and pervert advocate Aaron “The Contraaron” Terrell with a deliberate misgendering, the two adult human females discuss male sexuality while actual male Corinna mostly bites his tongue. Topics include Terrell’s surprising shift from hetero- to homosexuality on exogenous testosterone, pretty privilege, internet porn, eating disorders, autogynephobia, fertility signals, sexual dimorphism, pseudo-attraction, political religion, autism, twitter kerfuffles, and enforcement of the purity of the word “lesbian.” Terrell not only has the most lesbian cred of the three (female with a female partner) but also the most testosterone! This episode offers more than enough to offend everyone.


Aaron on Twitter: https://twitter.com/elegationvain

I enjoy Being a Girl (an autogynephile anthem): https://youtu.be/LtQBrShqgls?si=G5-KicuUvKxmlEzf&t=42

Jamie Reed episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-126-mitigating-the-damage-with-jamie-reed/

Joe Burgo on Autogynephilia as Psychic Retreat: https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/sympathy-for-the-devil-autogynephilia

J Michael Bailey episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-53-autogynephilia-michael-bailey/

Transparency podcast: https://www.genderdysphoriaalliance.com/podcast