It would take a butcher to butch up Corinna enough to satisfy those clamoring for his detransition. Fresh from the ⁠UnSpeakeasy retreat⁠ in Louisville, the Dorx also discuss the Kohein priestly caste, street work, rimshots, shock collars, and Pronoun Ripple ice cream. Is Cori a homunculus dressed in a woman suit? How many cavities does he have? Does wearing lumberjack clothes make you a lumberjack? Can we achieve peace in the Middle East by blocking traffic in the US? Listen to this exceptionally casual episode to find out the answers, most of which are “no”.

Links:

The Lumberjack Song: ⁠https://youtu.be/FshU58nI0Ts?si=vVwQniymDpk_udP4⁠

The UnSpeakeasy: ⁠https://www.theunspeakeasy.com/retreats⁠

Belissa Cohen on Corinna Cohn: ⁠https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Corinna%22%20(from%3ABelissaCohen)&src=typed_query&f=live⁠

Camp Trans: ⁠https://afterellen.com/setting-the-record-straight-about-michfest/⁠

Urbana IL citizens push for city resolution for ceasefire in Palestine: ⁠https://www.news-gazette.com/news/after-70-speakers-are-heard-from-urbana-aldermen-pass-revised-gaza-resolution-receive-standing-ovation/article_ad04334c-f8fe-567f-a038-04aa53cdfbc7.html⁠

This Land Is Mine: ⁠https://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIY?si=SgipauO73mibAzKZ⁠

Seder-Masochism: ⁠https://sedermasochism.com/download/⁠

Gender and Nina’s local bike club: ⁠https://blog.ninapaley.com/2022/03/21/cycling-and-gender-intersect-in-meaningful-ways/⁠

The Milgram Experiment: ⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

Aaaron Kimberly, Alice Dreger, Alex Byrne, Holly Lawford-Smith debate: Is Sex Binary? ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoT_ayxjXpg&ab_channel=MITFreeSpeechAlliance

What happens when an inquisitive, naturally hopeful, critical-thinking civics-oriented teacher educator gets a position in an Office of Equity, Social Justice, and Multicultural Education? She gets fired for ⁠not being “the right kind of Black person”⁠, and then speaks out about it while ⁠developing better alternatives⁠ for schools. ⁠Dr. tabia lee⁠ joins the Dorx to discuss travel, authenticity, finding pride in America, critical Social Justice, racial affinity groups, “white oppressors,” DEI gangsters, infighting, bad journalism, calling in vs. calling out, emotional reasoning, pronouns, sparklefun, purple hair, and living in a dystopian science-fiction timeline. Listeners will also be treated to optimism, good humor, and multiple Hollywood-style false endings!

Links:

Tabia Lee on Twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/11Drtlee11⁠

DEI College Director Fired for Not Being ‘Right Kind of Black Person’: ⁠https://www.newsweek.com/dei-college-director-fired-not-being-right-kind-black-person-1813481⁠

Free Black Thought: ⁠https://freeblackthought.com/voices/dr-tabia-lee⁠

Do No Harm: ⁠https://donoharmmedicine.org/⁠

Dr. t lee Educational Consultancy: ⁠http://www.drtlee.solutions/services.html⁠

Coalition for Empowered Education: ⁠https://empowered-ed.org/about-us/⁠

Paolo Freire: ⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_Freire⁠

ELIZA: ⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA

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For more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com

Beth Bourne is a lifelong Democrat, mother of an estranged trans-identified daughter, and model of courage in the belly of the beast that is the Golden State. After years of receiving slow and inattentive medical service, she told Kaiser Permanente she identified as non-binary and suddenly had speedy access to attention, validation, and any “gender-affirming care” their zealous trans-identified doctors could dream up: cross-sex hormones, double mastectomy, nipple grafts, body contouring, total hysterectomy, phalloplasty, and more! All at rock-bottom co-pays and fast-tracked by cooperative “therapists.” It’s the stuff of nightmares, and that’s before getting into her loss of friends, demonization by the local press, and a restraining order from her kid’s school. From Davis to Redwood City to trans/human-trafficker “sanctuary city” Sacramento, Beth’s story is as inspiring as it is harrowing.

 

Links:

“I Pretended to be ‘Nonbinary’ To Expose A Medical Scandal at Kaiser Permanente”: https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/i-pretended-to-be-nonbinary-to-expose

Beth Bourne on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bourne_beth2345

DIAG: Democrats for an Informed Approach to Gender: https://www.di-ag.org/

Moms for Liberty: https://www.momsforliberty.org/

 

For more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com

Independent Scientist and emerging public intellectual ⁠J.D. Haltigan⁠ left academia for a life of forced leisure and blue-collar employment, but he’d rather pursue his passion for psychological research at an institution. He joins the Dorx to discuss Covid masking, psychopathology, bike helmets, ⁠denial of death⁠, the neurotic anxious failure to develop identity, attachment theory, gender and co-morbid mental illness, the perversion of the caregiving instinct, limit-setting, ideological capture, Social-Emotional Learning as a proxy for parenting, mama bears, religion, pseudoreligion, the narcissism of “rescuers”, and the upcoming detransition contagion. Did we miss anything? Hopefully this episode will provide listeners with enough structure to construct a coherent narrative of life; if not, well, go outside and touch grass.

Links:

J.D. on twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/JDHaltigan⁠

J.D.’s substack: ⁠https://www.jdhaltigan.com/⁠

J.D. Haltigan on The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker: ⁠https://www.jdhaltigan.com/p/reflections-on-beckers-the-denial?utm_source=twitter&sd=pf⁠

Lionel Shriver writes about Corrie Cohn: ⁠https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/children-need-protection-from-adult-madness/⁠

Abigail Shrier’s Bad Therapy: ⁠https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/716567/bad-therapy-by-abigail-shrier/

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For more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com

Cyd Zeigler started ⁠OutSports⁠ in 1999, gradually shifting focus from “pro sports from a gay men’s fandom angle” to all things LGBTQ++, including trans athletes. He joins the Dorx to argue for inclusion of male trans athletes in female categories. From chess to football, Zeigler believes every sport can and should be treated differently; that sex categories open up opportunities; and that both sides point to Title IX as the reason they’re right. Nina pushes back on safety; Corinna introduces the idea of locus of control; and everyone agrees more data is needed. Despite an unfortunate technical error that ends the game early (that’s what happens when your tech support is an alpaca), Zeigler remains sportsmanlike throughout.

Links:

Outsports: ⁠https://www.outsports.com/⁠

Renee Richards: ⁠https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards⁠

Nancy Hogshead-Makar: ⁠https://championwomen.org/meet-nancy-hogshead-makar/⁠

Colin Wright explains sex categories: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4WV9xv62f4&ab_channel=Genspect⁠

rainbow hockey tape ban: ⁠https://www.outsports.com/2023/10/24/23930391/nhl-reverses-pride-tape-ban-players-gay-lgbtq/⁠

Colin Kaepernick kneeling: ⁠https://apnews.com/article/f9bbe38b748072531b07713736409181⁠

Megan Rapinoe kneeling: ⁠https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2663982-megan-rapinoe-kneels-during-national-anthem-before-usa-vs-thailand⁠

ICONS Women In Sports conference 2023: ⁠https://www.iconswomen.com/2023-international-womens-sports-summit/

After Nina welcomes self-described autoandrophile and pervert advocate Aaron “The Contraaron” Terrell with a deliberate misgendering, the two adult human females discuss male sexuality while actual male Corinna mostly bites his tongue. Topics include Terrell’s surprising shift from hetero- to homosexuality on exogenous testosterone, pretty privilege, internet porn, eating disorders, autogynephobia, fertility signals, sexual dimorphism, pseudo-attraction, political religion, autism, twitter kerfuffles, and enforcement of the purity of the word “lesbian.” Terrell not only has the most lesbian cred of the three (female with a female partner) but also the most testosterone! This episode offers more than enough to offend everyone.

Links:

Aaron on Twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/elegationvain⁠

I enjoy Being a Girl (an autogynephile anthem): ⁠https://youtu.be/LtQBrShqgls?si=G5-KicuUvKxmlEzf&t=42⁠

Jamie Reed episode: ⁠https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-126-mitigating-the-damage-with-jamie-reed/⁠

Joe Burgo on Autogynephilia as Psychic Retreat: ⁠https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/sympathy-for-the-devil-autogynephilia⁠

J Michael Bailey episode: ⁠https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-53-autogynephilia-michael-bailey/⁠

Transparency podcast: ⁠https://www.genderdysphoriaalliance.com/podcast⁠

When Things need to get done, it’s people like Ellen Daehnick who do them. Daehnick recently retired from her high-powered career to become a full-time “Unpaid Gender Crank”, focusing on legislation. She describes her first time testifying to the Colorado state legislature against ⁠CO House Bill 1071⁠, which welcomes felons to change their legal names as long as they claim a trans identity. More of this remarkable hearing, described as “bananas” by audio editor Lisa Jones, can be found ⁠here⁠. We discuss how to prepare for effective testimony, why female politicians support policies that harm women, selective empathy, toxic femininity, class, chiggers, and appeals to emotion vs facts. “Deadnaming,” “misgendering” and “mentioning the criminal record of an individual” may be verboten in the Colorado Statehouse, but the real genocide is the friends we made along the way. 

Ellen Daehnick on twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/edaehnick⁠

Daehnick’s email: genderwatchco@gmail.com

Audio Recap of CO HB 24-1071 “The Felon Name-Change Bill” by Lisa Jones: ⁠https://www.thatlisajones.com/new-kinda-colorado-crazy/⁠

Colorado House Bill 24-1071: ⁠https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb24-1071⁠

Christina Goeke kicked out of Colorado Statehouse: ⁠https://twitter.com/goeke_christina/status/1752490704020881694⁠

Tiara/Duane Kelley: ⁠https://www.thepublica.com/transgender-drag-queen-who-inspired-bill-to-make-name-changes-easier-for-trans-felons-in-colorado-has-lengthy-criminal-record/⁠

DIAG: Democrats for an Informed Approach to Gender: ⁠https://www.di-ag.org/⁠

Corinna’s talk “Political Organizing in America” at Genspect Denver 2023: ⁠https://youtu.be/5VpOhM7PXco?si=gTOu9FtmarVgKLLF⁠

Nina’s Quilt Suite: ⁠https://www.airbnb.com/h/quiltsuite⁠

Illinois HB 4876: ⁠https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=4876&GAID=17&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=152735&SessionID=112&GA=103

Last year, case manager ⁠Jamie Reed⁠ blew the whistle on the gender clinic that had employed her for almost four years. Today, she faces an even more frightening challenge: being a guest on the Heterodorx podcast. Jamie’s impeccable lefty credentials never prepared her for Corinna’s relentless sarcasm, let alone what she witnessed in the medical system: clueless endocrinologists, children making lifelong decisions about their fertility, untreated eating disorders, ignored red flags, young patients entering sex work, TikTok tics, medical harms, repeated “never events,” and the medical abandonment of detransitioners. We also discuss the personal and professional costs borne by whistleblowers, double standards in the press, alpacas (again), and Corinna’s geriatric cat. Jamie reminds us, “we are all broken”; Corinna reminds us, “give your gay money to Jamie.”

Links:

Jamie on Twitter: https://twitter.com/JamieWhistle

“I Thought I was Saving Trans Kids. Now I’m Blowing the Whistle.” Jamie Reed’s Free Press story: ⁠https://www.thefp.com/p/i-thought-i-was-saving-trans-kids⁠

Alberta Premier Danielle Smith introduces new gender policies: ⁠https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/danielle-smith-1.7101595⁠

Washington State whistleblower Tamara Pietzke: ⁠https://www.thefp.com/p/i-was-fired-after-blowing-the-whistle⁠

⁠https://www.thefp.com/p/i-refused-to-approve-all-teen-gender-transitions⁠

LGBT Courage Coalition: ⁠https://www.lgbtcourage.org/⁠

LGBT Courage Coalition Substack substack: ⁠https://lgbtcouragecoalition.substack.com/⁠

Guns Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-Steel-Fates-Societies/dp/0393317552

Canada is not merely America’s Hat; it’s also home to ⁠Eva Kurilova⁠ and ⁠Lois Cardinal⁠, a ⁠TERF-Tranny⁠ duo rivaling the ⁠Heterodorx⁠ in both hardliner contempt and world domination. We discuss womanface, tribal identities, the sterilization of First Nations youth, aging, Feminized Eunuch Males (FEMs), Medical Assistance In Dying (MAID), do-it-yourself genocide, “tru trans”, matching costumes, coerced speech, pronouns, Tide suppositories, and dubious hygiene tips. Who is the fairest handmaiden/pet troon of them all? Listen and find out!

Links:

Eva Kurilova’s Substack: ⁠https://www.evakurilova.com/⁠

Eva on twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/eva_kurilova⁠

Lois on twitter: ⁠https://twitter.com/duchess_elle⁠

Reduxx: ⁠https://reduxx.info/author/evak/⁠

The Distance: ⁠https://www.thedistancemag.com/⁠

Gender Dissent: ⁠https://www.genderdissent.com/⁠

Spinster: ⁠spinster.xyz⁠

TERF-Tranny Alliance: ⁠https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/⁠

Corinna and Nina rant and complain about the current “Gender Critical” online discourse. What is a lesbian? Is Corinna gay, or homosexual? Is DARVO a floor wax, or a dessert topping? Although we perpetuate the problem by talking about it, by the end we propose a solution. You’ll hear lots of misgendering, talk of Nina’s sex-pozzie San Francisco days (again, sorry), and references to IQ points. You won’t hear our usual intro and outro, because Nina had to edit this one while Corinna left town and couldn’t send the files. 

Links:

“Stella O’Malley on Lesbians”: ⁠https://twitter.com/iseult/status/1756099230236573970⁠

The Lesbian Heresy by Sheila Jeffreys: ⁠https://archive.org/details/lesbianheresyfem0000jeff⁠

Sex is real, people are weird: ⁠https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/⁠

Our die-in meme: ⁠https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1757068677910831464

Andrew Doyle: Reflections on the Online Mob: ⁠https://andrewdoyle.substack.com/p/reflections-on-the-online-mob⁠

Nina tries to school a teacher about pronouns: https://twitter.com/ninapaley/status/1750896492930339257