Episode 129: “A Path to Inclusion” with Cyd Zeigler

Cyd Zeigler started OutSports in 1999, gradually shifting focus from “pro sports from a gay men’s fandom angle” to all things LGBTQ++, including trans athletes. He joins the Dorx to argue for inclusion of male trans athletes in female categories. From chess to football, Zeigler believes every sport can and should be treated differently; that sex categories open up opportunities; and that both sides point to Title IX as the reason they’re right. Nina pushes back on safety; Corinna introduces the idea of locus of control; and everyone agrees more data is needed. Despite an unfortunate technical error that ends the game early (that’s what happens when your tech support is an alpaca), Zeigler remains sportsmanlike throughout.


Outsports: https://www.outsports.com/

Renee Richards: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ren%C3%A9e_Richards

Nancy Hogshead-Makar: https://championwomen.org/meet-nancy-hogshead-makar/

Colin Wright explains sex categories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4WV9xv62f4&ab_channel=Genspect

rainbow hockey tape ban: https://www.outsports.com/2023/10/24/23930391/nhl-reverses-pride-tape-ban-players-gay-lgbtq/

Colin Kaepernick kneeling: https://apnews.com/article/f9bbe38b748072531b07713736409181

Megan Rapinoe kneeling: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2663982-megan-rapinoe-kneels-during-national-anthem-before-usa-vs-thailand

ICONS Women In Sports conference 2023: https://www.iconswomen.com/2023-international-womens-sports-summit/

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  1. Holy shit this guy does not get it when explained the internal vs external and it makes me want to scream.

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