After Corinna complains about an ⁠obnoxious and possibly libelous article in the Washington Post⁠, the Dorx welcome legal scholar, philosopher, vegan, and animal rights activist ⁠Dr. Gary Francione⁠. We discuss Equality Claims vs Belief Claims, old-school transsexuals, admitting you’re wrong, ⁠Andrea Dworkin⁠, nonviolence, intersectionality, and the principles of a liberal pluralistic society. Can we police fetishes? Who’s Afraid of Kathleen Stock? Why are vegans extra crazy? Does Corinna really not want to be a Good Person? What is “harm”? Despite Corinna disparaging young people going vegan, and Nina swearing a lot about Crohn’s disease, Dr. Francione offers a banquet of (plant-based) food for thought.

Links

Gary Francione’s website: ⁠https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/⁠

Gary Francione’s essay on the Trans Rights Issue: ⁠https://www.abolitionistapproach.com/the-trans-rights-issue-equality-claims-and-belief-claims/⁠

Julie Bindel: The Unforgivable Transing of Andrea Dworkin ⁠https://juliebindel.substack.com/p/the-unforgivable-transing-of-andrea⁠

Why Veganism Matters: The Moral Value of Animals by Gary Francione ⁠https://cup.columbia.edu/book/why-veganism-matters/9780231199612⁠

Nina’s Gender Wars playing cards: ⁠https://store.ninapaley.com/product/gender-wars-playing-cards/⁠

How Do I Go Vegan ⁠https://www.howdoigovegan.com/⁠

Nina and Corinna will be guests at the ⁠Unspeakeasy retreat⁠ in Louisville, KY April 9-10! It’s for women only, even though Corinna isn’t one! Sign up and ask what organizer/host Meghan Daum was thinking: ⁠https://www.theunspeakeasy.com/2024-unspeakeasy-retreats